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RE: [nm-wg] notes from this weeks call / GGF10 agenda



The agenda looks good, wish I could attend. I hope the slides will be available on the net.  The session on the differences between document/literal SOAP vs. RPC SOAP is particularly relevant. It would also be good to include some prognosis on how we get from one to the other, and when, what tools are available, being developed, their maturity, who is working on it, are there examples etc. Maybe this is a bit premature, but even that would be good to know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Tierney [mailto:bltierney@lbl.gov] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 7:48 AM
To: nm-wg@ggf.org
Cc: Franco Travostino
Subject: [nm-wg] notes from this weeks call / GGF10 agenda



Hi all:

On the NMWG call this week we mainly discussed the GGF agenda.

Here is what we came up with (modified a bit by Dan and I after more  
discussion)

The idea is that on Wed there are very brief overviews of what the  
schemas are supposed to do  and what the status is. Then on Thursday  
the 1 hr slots are a combination of presenting the current version in  
some detail and discussing issues along the way.


Wed 3:30-5:00, NMWG sesion:
- update on status of the hierarchy document and review milestones  
-Richard  (10 minutes)
- overview of GHPN-RG work on network services -Franco  (15 minutes)
- proposed new Network Measurements Research Group (BoF in Hawaii?)  
-Brian  (10 minutes)
- short summary / current status of Request schema: Mark/Paul   (15  
minutes)
- short summary status on Response schema :  Dan/[Martin]  (15 minutes)
- piPEs experience with new schema: Eric/[Warren]  (10 minutes)
- SLAC experience with new schema: Paola   (10 minutes)


Thursday: (4 sessions, 6 hrs total)

1) explain difference between document/literal SOAP vs RPC SOAP and why  
we care  - Dan (15 min)
2) general overview of why we are here: sample use case scenarios  :  
Mark  (15 min)
3) walkthrough of Request schema: Mark/Paul :  (1 hr)
4) overview on Response schema / requirements doc :  Dan/[Martin] (1 hr)
5) Analyze the two schemas in combination for incompatibilities and  
resolve.  ( 2 hr)
   - include Examples: take a few common measurements, e.g. ping, iperf,  
host cpu/mem,
		some SNMP counters,  and describe some sample inputs/outputs for each.

And if there is still time:
6) Begin work on the "development guide".  ( 30 min?)
  include a Test suite: pick some combinations of  
inputs/expected-outputs that would indicate an "interoperable"  
implementation. Try to hit some of the "edge" cases with time ranges,  
parameter values, etc.


The following is "required" reading for anyone planning to attend the  
Thursday sessions:

Request Schema:
    http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~pdm/nmwg/
    http://rtlin1.dl.ac.uk/nmwg/

Request Schema:
    http://www-didc.lbl.gov/NMWG/schemas/relax/
     
http://forge.gridforum.org/projects/nm-wg/document/ 
Measurement_Response_Schema_Requirements/en



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