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RE: memo on optical networks and GRIDs



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Here are a few belated comments ... sorry I didnt get them in earlier.
  • Foster et al in their "Anatomy" paper wisely suggested focusing on interactions rather than internals in their discussion of GRID architecture. I'm hoping that this paper will be applicable to a range of optical networking architectures/technologies.
  • This raises the issue of defining what sorts of networks are in scope.   I think something like the following will cover the networks we're likely to see in the long-haul world for some time: Connection-oriented, synchronous, constant bit-rate, very low BER, bit rates 10**8-10**11/sec, connection set-up time sub-second but not sub-millisecond, rapidly restorable (~100 ms) if desired.  Somebody wisely pointed out that "optical" is a much-misused term ... this definition covers most of what's currently called "optical networking" and includes both optical and electrical switch fabrics.   If we want to cover LAN's, this will need some extension.  Including optical packet switching seems less important in the short term, altho definitely of interest longer term. Seems like quite a challenge to say something meaningful without bounding the network characteristics somehow.
  • The VO's described in the "Anatomy" paper block out a very broad set of applications/users. If we want to have this breadth of use in mind I think it's crucial that from the very start it's assumed that providing connectivity for a VO will require cobbling together heterogenous networks.  I'd expect to see a single VO using a mixture of customer-owned and carrier facilities, for example, and multiple administrative domains.  Also a variety of switch technologies. This has a number of implications:
    •  Inter-domain control has to be considered. There's quite a bit going on here that can be drawn on ... Canarie's OBGP.  Also the OIF demo-ed an optical NNI at OFC in June, with ~10 vendors demonstrating the ability to rapidly set up connections with other vendors (required control plane interworking).
    • Achieving complete user control of routing, etc. is going to be a major challenge for technical reasons (routing constraints may depend on technology and so vary between domains) and also for scalability/controllability (there's a strong similarity to the situation in the internet, where the information advertised by BGP between domains is quite limited).  In carrier space, I'd suggest focusing on something like optical VPN's. This is a very active research/standards area right now.
    • Consequently I think the GRID world needs to think carefully about just what they do want to control and what state information they really want/need. If you specify complete information about network internals you're going to get the same push-back that Internet ISP's provide. But (my opinion) you definitely need much more information than is advertised by the Internet's BGP.
  • If you accept that you need to interwork with the control planes of commercial ON's and commercial ON equipment, detailed attention needs to be paid to the work in IETF (GMPLS), OIF (UNI, ONNI), and ( :-(  ) ITU (ASON).  None of these are solutions to the GRID problem, but the GRID middleware will need to interwork with them to get needed state information and for reconfiguration.   I'd also suggest that it'd be good to use terms like "peer-to-peer" and UNI in a way that's consistent with the terminology being used in these groups ... it'll get rid of a lot of downstream communications problems.
  • As a GRID outsider, I would find it useful if explicit connections were made with the GRID layered model as Foster et al laid it out (or some similar model).
  • The motivation given for interest in ON's is bandwidth and cost.  Are there more subtle opportunities provided? For example, might scheduling take advantage of the transmission time predictability inherent in synchronous CBR connections?
I could provide more detail/background/references on most of these items if desired.
 
John
 

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From: Simeonidou, Dimitra [mailto:dsimeo@essex.ac.uk]
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Subject: memo on optical networks and GRIDs

Here is the draft memo on optical networking for GRID services. 

 

Please send your contribution &comments.

 

I will be happy to compile the final document.

 

 

Dimitra

 

 

P.S. I will be away until the 20th of July but my colleague Reza Nejabati (rnejab@essex.ac.uk) will be around to deal with any urgent queries.

 

 

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