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RE: Grid Portals workshop at LBL wrap-up



Thanks, George.  I think Steve Fitzgerald is planning an IS meeting
after the IPG meeting, so Monday is the only date left.  I have
cc'd Steve F. on this.

Mary
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Mary Thomas                                    Email: mthomas@sdsc.edu
Manager, Computational Sciences Portals Group  Ph:    858.534.5061
Scientific Computing Department                Fax:      858.534.5117
San Diego Supercomputer Center                 www.sdsc.edu/~mthomas


  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: gmyers@nas.nasa.gov [mailto:gmyers@nas.nasa.gov]
  > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:30 PM
  > To: mthomas@sdsc.edu
  > Cc: Jason Novotny; Michael Russell; Gregor von Laszewski;
  > jshalf@lbl.gov; thinke@mail.arc.nasa.gov; Jarek Gawor;
  > launchpad@sun543.nas.nasa.gov; grid-portals@george.lbl.gov;
  > btemko@cs.indiana.edu; mdahan@sdsc.edu; mock@sdsc.edu;
  > becker@marcy.nas.nasa.gov; haupt@erc.msstate.edu; shawn@ncsa.uiuc.edu;
  > EWBethel@lbl.gov; massimo.cafaro@unile.it; gce-wg@gridforum.org; Bill
  > Johnston; Reagan Moore
  > Subject: Re: Grid Portals workshop at LBL wrap-up
  >
  >
  > The IPG Workshop is going to be August 21 and 22, which is a Tuesday and
  > Wednesday, so we can try for Monday the 20th, or Thursday the 23rd
  > as possible dates/days to have it on.   And the sooner we
  > decide the better
  > chance we have of getting the one we want.   Like last year, there may
  > also be an Information Services segment.   The sooner we lock in, the
  > more help we will be able to get from our local coordinator to arrange
  > goodies and such.   The information for the workshop, which includes
  > info on some of the local hotels, and onbase housing is available from
  > the IPG Web Pages ( http://www.ipg.nasa.gov )  under AboutIPG,
  > select Workshops.
  >
  > George
  >
  > Mary Thomas wrote:
  >
  > > All -
  > >
  > > I hear from the SDSC'rs that it was a great meeting.  I am sorry
  > > to have missed it :-(
  > >
  > > I would like to suggest that we keep momentum
  > > by agreeing to meet again around the NASA/IPG annual review
  > > that is, I think, in August.
  > >
  > > Thinking ahead, like all great people, Bill J. planned for me
  > > to organize a portals collaboration workshop like we had last
  > > year, which was VERY productive.  A workshop gives us a real target
  > > date and sets deadlines (which always _enables_ productivity).
  > >
  > > AFter the GGF meeting and the GCE working groups have time
  > > to complete thier initial docs, we may well have a set of
  > > schemas that will be beta-standards.
  > >
  > > If this sounds good, I will start making workshop plans.
  > >
  > > Mary
  > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
  > > Mary Thomas                                    Email: mthomas@sdsc.edu
  > > Manager, Computational Sciences Portals Group  Ph:    858.534.5061
  > > Scientific Computing Department                Fax:      858.534.5117
  > > San Diego Supercomputer Center                 www.sdsc.edu/~mthomas
  > >
  > >   > -----Original Message-----
  > >   > From: novotny@bullwinkle.lbl.gov
  > [mailto:novotny@bullwinkle.lbl.gov]On
  > >   > Behalf Of Jason Novotny
  > >   > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 12:25 PM
  > >   > To: Michael Russell; Gregor von Laszewski;
  > jshalf@lbl.gov; Mary Thomas;
  > >   > thinke@mail.arc.nasa.gov; Jarek Gawor; launchpad@nas.nasa.gov;
  > >   > grid-portals@george.lbl.gov; btemko@cs.indiana.edu;
  > mdahan@sdsc.edu;
  > >   > mock@sdsc.edu; becker@nas.nasa.gov; haupt@erc.msstate.edu;
  > >   > shawn@ncsa.uiuc.edu; EWBethel@lbl.gov; massimo.cafaro@unile.it;
  > >   > gce-wg@gridforum.org
  > >   > Subject: Grid Portals workshop at LBL wrap-up
  > >   >
  > >   >
  > >   >
  > >   >     Thanks again to all those who attended the Grid Portals
  > >   > Developer Workshop. I
  > >   > believe it was quite successful in presenting new and useful
  > >   > information as well
  > >   > providing us with some discussion/task items for the future.
  > >   > The slides are online at:
  > >   >     http://www-itg.lbl.gov/Grid/public/events/agenda.html (pdf
  > >   > coming soon!)
  > >   >
  > >   >     To continue our thread of discussion, we wanted to
  > >   > standardize data models across
  > >   > Grid information services. Although we had disgreed on the
  > >   > merit of constructing user
  > >   > profile schemas, other possible schemas that were discussed were:
  > >   >
  > >   >     - batchML. Gregor's term for developing a data schema for
  > >   > batch queuing systems.
  > >   > This would address deficiencies in current MDS representations
  > >   > of scheduling resources.
  > >   >
  > >   >     - Application schemas- Dennis Gannon talked about this at
  > >   > Mary's workshop in SDSC.
  > >   > Deemed useful for application portals trying to unite VO's and
  > >   > providing Grid
  > >   > interoperability. Dennis and folks at NCSA apparently have done
  > >   > some work in this area.
  > >   > We should continue to iterate on schema ideas, possibly
  > >   > expressed in XML, but the
  > >   > representation isn't important on the first pass.
  > >   >
  > >   >     Please chime in with other ideas if you are interested (and
  > >   > join Grid Forum Grid
  > >   > Computing Environments (GCE) mail list  if you haven't already
  > >   > at www.gridforum.org)
  > >   >
  > >   >     Thanks, Jason
  > >   >
  > >   >
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